The title of this post popped into my head from the wonderful TV series Goodness Gracious Me where in a series of sketches, an Indian father insists to his son that everything from Christianity to the British Royal Family are Indian......
https://youtu.be/8tw7LIykvBw
Many Indian Army formations and units fought in the desert in WW2, the first and most celebrated was Fourth Indian Division. For the period I am interested in at present, the three infantry brigades comprised a British and two Indian battalions, with lots of variations and substitution of entirely British brigades.
I have previously mentioned how, as a callow youth I encountered the Atlantic Indian Brigade plastics in the Toytub in Edinburgh, but passed up the opportunity to buy them, a decision regretted for many years. Had I bought them, I suspect I may have been disappointed.....
The pictures that follow are from the excellent Plastic Soldier Review website:
https://plasticsoldierreview.com/Index.aspx
It was the lurid (and inaccurate) box art which hooked me:
Unfortunately, as the PSR review makes clear, the accuracy, weaponry and animation leaves something to be desired....
What they do have are wonderful turbans!
For many years, that was all that was available aside from transplanting Indian heads onto British bodies or painting British figures with darker skin (most wore helmets in battle aside from Sikhs) or use metal - most ranges just have Sikhs though.
Strelets raised the bar by releasing a set:
The figures are mostly considerably more accurate with less silly poses, although as PSR remarks there are problems with some weapons...
Some figures are simply fantastic such as the radio operator. Like the Atlantic set, they suffer from a mix of turban types that would be unlikely to be seen in the same unit; the Indian Army was organised along regional / tribal lines, each with their own distinctive pagri as this C19th illustration depicts:
The only exception were Sikhs, who often formed companies in other battalions.
I was guided by the above and photos in The Tiger Strikes and the Tiger Kills (HMSO publications about the Indian army in WW2).
So I decided a little "Frankensteining" (or is it "Frakensteening"?) was in order and there followed an agony of lopping of heads, pins and sore thumbs.....
Glueing turned into a nightmare as some heads insisted on rising above the pin, despite lots of insertion and pressure. Gaps were filled with liquid green stuff and a coat of diluted PVA, some fettling and a spray undercoat / primer later we have:
Maharattas (note some figures have steel helmets on back or belt - I felt removing them would result in more problems to correct so used Pagri heads for them while the majority has steel helmet)
Punjabi -note two slight variations in turban
Atlantic do a nice Punjabi head, so I may convert another unit
Rajputs and Rajputana Rifles
Sikhs
There are lots of other useable figures from the Strelets box and a few from the Atlantic (with some more heads) and these will be used for the Indian Motor Brigade or squadrons of the CIH as well as possibly another Indian division.
Also, deciding I had not endured enough, I made the decision to increase the number of tank models - I'm finding 1 model per 30 tanks is a good ratio, allowing DAK to have a mix of types. Unable to find the other Hasegawa Stuart and after lots of deliberation, I dug out what had intended to be the HQ vehicles for each of the brigades.....
Fortunately, despite the Mirage model having rubber tracks, it also comes with 3D printed versions and the other two have moulded tracks / wheels. Sadly two do have lots of PE brass bits including side skirts.... as these are "proper" serious models....
I'm working on the idea that short weekends allow for more of this type of thing and some Contrast Paint work and longer leave is best for the Soldier King project as it takes longer. I do however keep thinking I need to get more of the Italian Wars flats done.....
A very interesting post on a subject I know nothing about, the turban variations are really fascinating. Big difference in styles between the Strelets and Atlantic that's for sure, I have looked at Strelets War of Spanish Succession stuff and it looks really rather tempting, not a great fan these days of softer plastic so still dithering! Nice looking tanks too.
ReplyDeleteThanks Donnie. Soft plastics have both advantages and disadvantages; some are very nicely sculpted and are relatively cheap but cleaning up is horrible!
DeleteI've noticed a lot of bits I need to correct with a sharp scalpel since priming!
I'd say go for metal if you can afford it; Strelets are erratic in supply (for obvious reasons) and can be rough even in early casts.
Neil
Thanks for the heads up on the quality of Strelets Neil, I indeed may give them a miss and stick with metal.
DeleteDonnie, as much as I like Strelets, they do need a fair bit of work.....
DeleteNeil
Excellent - looking forward to seeing these in action. For some reason, I could not get the old song 'oh Doctor, I'm in trouble - Oh Goodness Gracious Me' out of my head for hours after reading :)
ReplyDeleteThanks Darren. Apologies for the ear worm....
DeleteI'm going to go over them again as Contrast an AP washes are unforgiving!
Neil
The Toytub! I remember coming across that and being amazed to find some Hinchliffe Prussian Napoleonic Jaegers in an Edinburgh toy shop, but I didn't have time to linger and I never got back, so i dont know what sort of range they had. Can't even be sure when this was!
ReplyDeleteI was an infrequent visitor to Edinburgh and was in my teens when I found the Toytub so 1980s. There was a good second hand record shop nearby as well!
DeleteI remember that they had Minifigs - I bought some odds and ends of the first generation strips - ancients. As I recall, they didn't have a lot of stock. I seem to remember they had some Ral Partha goblins - out of my price range so perhaps had more fantasy?
Neil
Wow. That’s a lot of work. I would never think to even attempt something like this due to lack of talent. And lack of commitment. 😀
ReplyDeleteStew, you are clearly much more sane than I am - although you have just spent ages making trenches for anteaters! ☺
DeleteNeil
Good comparison between the plastic sets. Your turban identification illustration is similar to one I referenced when building a NWF collection many years ago.
ReplyDeleteThanks Jonathan. I think it's the only one out there apart from the HMSO booklets - "The Tiger Strikes" and "The Tiger Kills" about the Indian divisions in WW2. These have some portrait photos (head shots) of troops in pagri labelled "Baluchi", " Pathan" etc.
DeleteNeil
That is fascinating and a real labour of love doing all those head swaps. I'm afraid my Indian troops in the desert just wear tin hats....
ReplyDeleteThanks Martin. As they should of course, apart from Sikhs!
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to push the artistic license a bit. There are photos of troops in various pagri, but seem to be HQ and / or not in combat mode.
Neil
I have some of the Atlantic Indians. As a kid any of the Atlantic sets I found I would buy if I had the money. The Indians never saw much action in my wars.
ReplyDeleteI don't think I had a lot of the Atlantic figures: the WW2 French which were identical to the Americans but in blue plastic! I think I had some of the Egyptians and a Roman chariot lingered into a switch to 25mm metal. I think it was the artwork on the boxes that attracted me, that and the exotic nature of the company. The figures themselves were often poor, but full of character!
DeleteNeil
Good work with the Indians, you were much more conscientous than me, doing all those head swaps etc! I'm sure they will look great when painted - and fight well too!
ReplyDeleteDavid,
DeleteI debated long and hard what to do about the Indians. I contemplated shaving off the odd "shirt over shorts" combo the Atlantic figures are wearing or painting as a pullover (except they have rolled up sleeves). In the end there are only 3 useable poses (with an odd rifle) - others will need new weapons.
Then I thought about trying to mix and match the Strelets figures....
I even debated putting heads onto 8th Army figures...
These are still options, but in the end I decided to go down the route I did. I'm not 100% happy with some and I may redo. My biggest problem is that I intend to use Contrast paints which are very unforgiving......
Neil
Fantastic work Niel, nicely done.
ReplyDeleteWillz.
Thanks Willz. It turns out they needed a bit more corrective work - I had spray primer peeling off the bases!
ReplyDeleteGreen stuff and PVA mixed with white paint sorted things out, fingers crossed!
Neil